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Clock Swing
Posted: 12 May 2023, 11:43
by Simon
Original topic:
viewtopic.php?t=109
This is about implementing a swing, or "shuffle feel" on the two MIDI-DIN ports and the two ANLG ports (left and right clocks).
Adjusting the swing will be done with one setting only, a percentage from 0 to 100.
Feel free to comment here regarding:
- If you think some information is missing or unclear
- How you would like this feature to be implemented (buttons, settings, how to activate, how it is done, etc.)
- Why you think this feature is a good addition to the Midronome
Re: Clock Swing
Posted: 12 May 2023, 12:28
by gavibee
Hi Simon,
As I was involved in the original thread (link posted above), I think I've said all I wish to on this important potential additional feature.
One thing I'd like to reiterate though is that you'll probably need 2 settings, one for the percentage and the other to switch between 16th-note and 8th-note swing/shuffle.
As for implementation, pressing and holding one or two buttons whilst using the main knob to dial in the percentage seems most logical to my mind.
Re: Clock Swing
Posted: 23 Jul 2023, 11:21
by gavibee
Hi Simon,
So, given your most recent communication regarding new features, can I assume that swing/shuffle functionality isn't going to happen anytime soon?
If so, I need to find an alternative solution and ditch my Midronome... which would be a
huge shame
Thanks,
Gavin.
Re: Clock Swing
Posted: 24 Jul 2023, 13:19
by Simon
Hi Gavin,
You're correct, I do not think Swing will make it to the device. Nothing is written in stone yet (except Firmware 2.0), but my idea for the future features from
https://survey.midronome.com/ is:
- Firmware 2.0 - implement Sync to Any Pulse and MIDI Data Forwarding
- Firmware 3.0 - implement Tempo presets and Analog Start Signal
- For the negative offset and swing, create add-on modules
(I imagine for swing a simple module with f.x. 2 MIDI outputs and 2 knobs to control the swing - same idea for the negative offset)
- Make a general Arduino add-on module with a simple Midronome library so that people can easily implement whatever else they need
(not necessarily in that order)
You sound particularly invested in the swing so if you want I'll make sure to send you a swing module as soon as there is a beta version
Simon
Re: Clock Swing
Posted: 24 Jul 2023, 19:32
by gavibee
I appreciate all your efforts Simon and would be interested in beta testing the Swing module if/when you manage to develop it.
However, in the meantime, I'm going to have to find an alternative solution (MidiGal perhaps? Nowhere near as accurate a clock but has the functionality I need).
Re: Clock Swing
Posted: 24 Jul 2023, 21:12
by Simon
Perfectly understandable - maybe give that new CLOCKStep Multi a go? or get one of the last Multiclocks
Re: Clock Swing
Posted: 14 Aug 2024, 22:14
by Pluppo
I really miss having this feature. It would be incredible.
Re: Clock Swing
Posted: 18 May 2025, 13:28
by Simon
Hi all
I've been muching on this for a while, and I'm considering making a very small DIN-MIDI Adapter with 2 tiny knobs: one for positive delay and one for swing.
It will be a "mini-device" packed into an adapter, which will take any MIDI and delay it by x ms as well as add swing to the clock (I'm not sure if adding swing to any other message would make sense?). Imagine like this picture but with one side male and one side female, you plug it in the MIDI output of your device and then plug a normal MIDI Cable into it.
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So instead of the original idea of an add-on module for the Nome this would be an adapter you could use with the Nome but also with any other device.
Re: Clock Swing
Posted: 11 Aug 2025, 15:07
by Braille
Hi! I’m unable to create a new post yet but I’d love to support the idea of swing on the nome 2! The ability to add shuffle to my 808 / 909 etc from the nome - or just shuffle that is uniform across the numerous drum machines nome powers would be awesome.
The nome software isn’t open source is it? I’d be happy to take a stab at implementation if this isn’t possible on your end!
Braille
Http://whoisbraille.com
Re: Clock Swing
Posted: 11 Aug 2025, 15:09
by Braille
Simon wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 13:28
Hi all
I've been muching on this for a while, and I'm considering making a very small DIN-MIDI Adapter with 2 tiny knobs: one for positive delay and one for swing.
It will be a "mini-device" packed into an adapter, which will take any MIDI and delay it by x ms as well as add swing to the clock (I'm not sure if adding swing to any other message would make sense?). Imagine like this picture but with one side male and one side female, you plug it in the MIDI output of your device and then plug a normal MIDI Cable into it.
adapter.png
So instead of the original idea of an add-on module for the Nome this would be an adapter you could use with the Nome but also with any other device.
This would work!
Re: Clock Swing
Posted: 11 Aug 2025, 15:14
by Simon
Glad to hear that!
Simon
Re: Clock Swing
Posted: 20 Aug 2025, 02:33
by maxbrank
My Tr808 and all my setup can't wait for it. Merci Simon.
Quite weird to not be able to use the midronome's button but it could better than nothing.
Re: Clock Swing
Posted: 20 Aug 2025, 09:46
by Simon
maxbrank wrote: ↑20 Aug 2025, 02:33
Quite weird to not be able to use the midronome's button but it could better than nothing.
Which button do you want to use?