Hi
Please advise on approach as i am confused about how to go about it.
Using Ableton on mac, currently using External Instrument device to send midi notes to
devices like Peak, Minataur etc (using midi over usb directly to synth) and
Vermona, Model D etc (using a UXmidi midi port in Ableton) which is my main midi output device to hardware
I bought the Nome because when i play live or record, the vermona slowly drifts off, and in general things stop lining up.
I am using a low latency Motu Audio interface.
I am confused about how to use the NOME. Currently the Nome is syncing in one direction. As in ableton changes are reflected but Nome changes do not reflect back which is Issue number 1.
second issue is , I am confused about how to connect everything so that Nome is the masster clock. Do i continue to send midi notes the way I have been doing it ? Where does the midi out of the Nome go to ? Does the Nome need a midi In from somewhere?
Thank you so much for your help
Arman
general hybrid setup help
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Simon
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Re: general hybrid setup help
Hi Arman
For Issue 1, it's probably because the Ableton Control Surface is not set up correctly. Please follow step by step the U-SYNC Quick Start Guide, in particular section 2.2 (but going through the rest would probably be a good idea anyways - to be sure everything is set as it should).
Second issue: the Nome sends clock, either MIDI Clock or Analog clock. It can send MIDI Notes as well (merging them smartly with the clock, without affecting the clock), but it will not change their timing, at least not until U-SYNC 2.0. To benefit of the Nome's timing, you need your hardware to use the clock, either from their internal sequencer or their arppegiator. If you send 100% of your music as MIDI notes from Ableton, then the Nome will not much of a difference in your setup.
For Issue 1, it's probably because the Ableton Control Surface is not set up correctly. Please follow step by step the U-SYNC Quick Start Guide, in particular section 2.2 (but going through the rest would probably be a good idea anyways - to be sure everything is set as it should).
Second issue: the Nome sends clock, either MIDI Clock or Analog clock. It can send MIDI Notes as well (merging them smartly with the clock, without affecting the clock), but it will not change their timing, at least not until U-SYNC 2.0. To benefit of the Nome's timing, you need your hardware to use the clock, either from their internal sequencer or their arppegiator. If you send 100% of your music as MIDI notes from Ableton, then the Nome will not much of a difference in your setup.
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dawjaw
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Re: general hybrid setup help
thanks Simon
Issue 1: i believe i have followed the instructions. Input Nome 2 Daw controt, output Nome 2 (controls)
Issue1b: when i restart ableton often it shows "plugin disabled/bypassed" . I have to reboot to make it work. I am on Sequoia 15.4.1
Issue2: when you say "It can send MIDI Notes as well (merging them smartly with the clock, without affecting the clock), but it will not change their timing, at least not until U-SYNC 2.0" Isnt Ableton able to slave to Nome2 and send midi notes/clock according to Nome 2 being the master clock ?
When you say Nome wouldnt make of the difference in my setup, i wanted to point you to this post using the nome 1. I understand he is sending clock to his sequencers, but the part that caught my attention is him using ableton to launch sequences and notes and them working all in timing. Can i benefit for Nome to be able to keep the synths in sync when they are receiving notes/clock from ableton but slaved to Nome 2?
https://forum.simntonic.com/viewtopic.php?t=325
Issue 1: i believe i have followed the instructions. Input Nome 2 Daw controt, output Nome 2 (controls)
Issue1b: when i restart ableton often it shows "plugin disabled/bypassed" . I have to reboot to make it work. I am on Sequoia 15.4.1
Issue2: when you say "It can send MIDI Notes as well (merging them smartly with the clock, without affecting the clock), but it will not change their timing, at least not until U-SYNC 2.0" Isnt Ableton able to slave to Nome2 and send midi notes/clock according to Nome 2 being the master clock ?
When you say Nome wouldnt make of the difference in my setup, i wanted to point you to this post using the nome 1. I understand he is sending clock to his sequencers, but the part that caught my attention is him using ableton to launch sequences and notes and them working all in timing. Can i benefit for Nome to be able to keep the synths in sync when they are receiving notes/clock from ableton but slaved to Nome 2?
https://forum.simntonic.com/viewtopic.php?t=325
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Simon
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Re: general hybrid setup help
Hi Arman
Issue 1: did you select "Nome" as a control surface (and not None)?
1b: nothing I have heard about before, this could be a setting in Ableton? Sequoia is supported, and Ableton 11 and 12 are supported.
Issue 2: yes you can send notes from Ableton as well of course. All of this will work, I'm just pointing out that having the Nome or not might not make much of a difference. That is, it won't make much difference timing-wise, but of course the Nome is a useful toolbox generally. For example it gives you an easy way to adjust and see the tempo, and if one day you decide to add any sequencer/drum machine to your setup then all you need to plug it into the Nome to make sure it is on time with everything else.
Regarding the post: the main difference is that person is using a drum machine as well. If you 100% send MIDI Notes to your synths without using any of their internal timing mechanism (usually arp and sequencers, but it could also be a delay effect, a VCO, a LFO, etc.), then they are simply not using the MIDI Clock. You can try turning if off in the Nome and (to do so, press the Setup button (Cog) -> Adv -> Mid -> OFF), and see if there is any difference at all.
Issue 1: did you select "Nome" as a control surface (and not None)?
1b: nothing I have heard about before, this could be a setting in Ableton? Sequoia is supported, and Ableton 11 and 12 are supported.
Issue 2: yes you can send notes from Ableton as well of course. All of this will work, I'm just pointing out that having the Nome or not might not make much of a difference. That is, it won't make much difference timing-wise, but of course the Nome is a useful toolbox generally. For example it gives you an easy way to adjust and see the tempo, and if one day you decide to add any sequencer/drum machine to your setup then all you need to plug it into the Nome to make sure it is on time with everything else.
Regarding the post: the main difference is that person is using a drum machine as well. If you 100% send MIDI Notes to your synths without using any of their internal timing mechanism (usually arp and sequencers, but it could also be a delay effect, a VCO, a LFO, etc.), then they are simply not using the MIDI Clock. You can try turning if off in the Nome and (to do so, press the Setup button (Cog) -> Adv -> Mid -> OFF), and see if there is any difference at all.